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“I think it’s very important to remember that right now we’re overfishing the oceans in a completely unsustainable way. We’re bottom trawling, mid-range trawling, surface trawling. There’s basically no fish left in the oceans. Two thirds of the fish we’re eating now are factory farmed, which is completely devastating to ecosystems. Soil erosion is destroying millions of acres of land because we’re using genetically engineered corn and soy and alfalfa to feed to these imprisoned animals, causing nutrient-rich runoff, causing massive dead zones. There are over 40 dead zones worldwide now where nothing can live because of hypoxia.So, we have to understand that animal agriculture is devastating, not just to the climate, but to so many other things. Deforestation, we’re cutting down rainforests right now at about three to four acres per second in the Amazon. This is completely unsustainable, and it’s causing the largest mass extinction of species in 65 million years. So we have to, I think, really have a broad view of the many ways that animal agriculture is destroying ecosystems, including, like here in Phoenix, basically, it’s sucking so much water out of the aquifers that took millions of years to charge and we’re taking it out. Within a few decades they’ll be empty, because it takes so much water to irrigate all the feed grains. So it’s really important to get educated about the many dimensions of the environmental impacts of animal agriculture.”“In fact, heart disease and cancer combined in the United States, kills more people every year than we’ve lost American soldiers in every war that we fought in the history of the United States. And so, that devastating process of just those two chronic illnesses have that impact. The third leading cause of death is medical treatment. So, when someone is diagnosed with a chronic illness, such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes… These illnesses, they originate from putting unnecessary chemicals in our bodies. The unnecessary chemicals are from the processed animal protein we consume: the dairy products, the eggs, the other overly processed foods, and the chemicals and preservatives and toxins and dyes that go into these foods. […] From 2019 to 2021, we saw a reduction of life expectancy in the United States of about 2.7 years. We’re seeing an increase in chronic illness among preteens, teenagers with type 2 diabetes, heart disease.”“The great film, ‘What the Health’ had a great scene where they were trying to talk to the medical professionals about this very issue and the woman runs out from the hospital and says, ‘We can’t talk about this. This is our business.’ Follow the money. You can’t make money off treating a healthy person. And also, there’s no better customer or better patient than an addict. And so, the entire medical community is designed to treat people who are already sick, not prevent them from becoming sick in the first place. And this is tremendous conditioning. And it goes through all these institutions. […] So, the institutions, all of them, are making money off of animal suffering, and human suffering. I think Dr. Rao said it best when he said, ‘We’re all being factory-farmed.’ And that’s really the truth.”“I am so grateful to be married to this wonderful, my wife, wonderful wife, Madeline, who cooks only with organic vegan whole foods, and we have stayed out of the medical establishment for over 40 years. We haven’t been to a doctor or to a drugstore, to anything. […] And just like the book says, be a messenger of love, and every cell in our body will feel that love and they’ll get up every morning and say, ‘I want to help this person fulfill their mission.’”Jane, I recently watched… you featured an animal-people rights case on UnchainedTV, where you did a panel for about a week on a case that was in California. So, would you like to share a little bit about your thoughts about animal-people laws and vegan politics? “If the planet becomes too hot to support human life and life in general, we can go extinct. So, there are a whole bunch of trials now of people who are doing something called Open Rescue. And the idea is, if you saw a dog suffering in a hot car foaming at the mouth, you’d be applauded for breaking the window and rescuing the dog, right? Well, there are animals suffering in factory farms, in slaughterhouses, right now who are sick, who are dying, who were suffering. And these folks go in there, and they’re not criminals. Some of them are PhDs, highly educated people. […] These people, the last thing I’ll say is, they’re risking their lives. They are risking their lives to go undercover or to do these open rescues. And the least we can do is report on their story.”